Thursday, August 9, 2007

Why do fundamentalists single out "Gay Christians" to point out their sin?

Introduction

I have debated this topic for quite a while on a supposedly Christian forum. The acceptance of gay theology is probably the greatest denomination-splitting issue since the Protestant Reformation. This isn't about "picking on gays"; rather it's about a ruinous doctrine that's destroying mainline church denominations.

Biblically speaking, fundamentalist Christians understand same-sex sex to be sin regardless of the reason for it. There are some church denominations that are misleading their congregations to believe it is not sin along with other false doctrines. In the fundamentalist view, the sinner is acceptable, but the sin is not acceptable. We object to calling same-sex sex an acceptable form of Christian conduct, and we object to "gay marriage" as a God-ordained partnership. Because of our belief in the Bible we are labeled intolerant and unloving bigots by gay activists.

Hence, the world sees this as a Christian "holier than thou" persecution of people that want to have gay sex. According to the Bible as we understand it, God will forgive any sinner that wants to be forgiven, but He will never accept his/her sins, and that is why Jesus died on the cross -- so the sinner could be washed clean of his/her sins. This forgiveness requires repentance and faith in Jesus Christ. Without repentance, the sinner remains unforgiven, and when a person denies any type of sin it indicates they probably never-even-once repented of ALL their sins.

Partial repentance is not true repentance biblically speaking. Partial repentance is no better than partial salvation, which is really no salvation at all. God can not forgive a sin unless a person repents of it -- meaning that he/she confesses it is wrong, and no longer wants it in his or her life.

Q&A


Q: Why do Christian fundamentalists single out "gay Christians" and point out their sins? Why don't they pick on adulterers, fat people, drunks, and all the rest?

A: Some of the terminology must be explained first before this question can be answered. The Bible never mentions "sexual orientation"; hence a person's sexual orientation is not sin. Secondly the Bible makes no distinction between bi-sexual, homosexual, or heterosexual acts. If a man has sex with a man, then biblically it is SIN regardless of the reason. The ACT is the sin NOT the ORIENTATION. Hence a person that is ATTRACTED to the same sex BUT DOES NOT ACT on it, is not committing sin biblically speaking. Let's please have that understood.

Sexual orientation does not bar someone from church membership in good standing. People with same sex attraction are encouraged to join the church body and have fellowship. The apostle Paul said some of those in the Christian faith were formerly having same-sex sex:

1 Corinthians 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Even same-sex-practicing gays are welcome to attend church, but they must respect the doctrine that is taught there. Conservative christians have the following biblical issues with so-called christians that promote this kind of a sexual lifestyle:

1) Practicing same-sex "Gay Christians" single themselves out for rebuttal. They claim they are EXEMPT from the biblical repentance that ALL other Christians are required to experience. "Gay Christians" that practice same-sex sex single themselves out by saying their sinful acts are righteous. In addition these so-called "gay Christians" have formulated a carnal doctrine that promotes their acts as "sinless perfection" in which sin abounds so that grace may more abound.

2) The church body is sick because of the false doctrine. This sin-pandering gay doctrine has infiltrated several liberal-leaning church denominations and it is causing them to split. The most noticeable example is the Episcopal Church in the USA. It has affected other Protestant denominations as well and the damage is clearly visible in lost membership, church closures, and divided congregations.

3) God's holiness deserves respect. Many Christians are offended when people that regularly practice same-sex sex flaunt their sins by calling themselves "gay Christians." We feel it is an insult to God's name and character to associate His name with the acceptance of sin. Understandably, a Christian can fall into sexual sin and remain a Christian. The difference is that a Christian confesses this and all other sins to Jesus Christ. In contrast a so-called "gay Christian" flaunts his or her sinful lifestyle, and claims it is righteous, in direct opposition to what the Bible teaches.

Responses:

Moriah Conquering Wind said...
# of scriptures labeling homosexuality outright as sin: a handful. not a ton, but a few.# of scriptures labeling daimonosexuality outright as sin: ZERO (0)# of daimonosexuals who readily admit their condition to be SIN: ALL# of homosexuals who readily admit their condition to be SIN, without equivocation: WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE??? # of CF moderators openly flaunting their "gayness" yet picking on a daimonosexual for even MENTIONING (with NO detail, NO descriptions, etc.) her orientation in passing, on a sex thread no less: at least two (2), possibly more.

SRF reply:

Dear Moriah,

I am sorry that people misunderstand you. I don't fully understand you either and I apologize for your pain. But I do know this: Jesus loves ALL sinners, and some just happen to be attracted to their own sex. Sexual desire is not a sin, but acting on it inappropriately is a sin. There is no appropriate outlet for gay-sex. This is not meant to blame you, and I try very hard to understand how difficult it must be for somebody to deny who they feel like they are. In our own strength we can not overcome, but in Christ's strength we can. Jesus is so far above me that there is no comparison. I hope you will look at Him instead of looking at me or any others that have not set the right example for you.

2 comments:

Moriah Conquering Wind said...

# of scriptures labeling homosexuality outright as sin: a handful. not a ton, but a few.

# of scriptures labeling daimonosexuality outright as sin: ZERO (0)

# of daimonosexuals who readily admit their condition to be SIN: ALL

# of homosexuals who readily admit their condition to be SIN, without equivocation: NONE

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WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE???
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# of CF moderators openly flaunting their "gayness" yet picking on a daimonosexual for even MENTIONING (with NO detail, NO descriptions, etc.) her orientation in passing, on a sex thread no less: at least two (2), possibly more.

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OH THE HYPOCRISY ....
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Moriah Conquering Wind said...

It thinks maybe you misunderstood, MercyBurst. Moriah bes not gay. Moriah bes not attracted to humans.
Thanks you for yr kind wordings though. That bes very nice of you.